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How can I eavesdrop on one of their meetings?
1 of 6: For starters, talk to Herdir and tell him to return to the palace. You're through torturing people, so you won't need him anymore.
2 of 6: You've got quest arrows for both Ma'zaddha and Nelrene, so you can track their movements on the local and world maps.
3 of 6: Their meetings happen at about 1 am, so start paying close attention to their movements at about 12:30 am.
4 of 6: They meet next to a sewer grate in the Crucible district that's a very short distance west of Brithaur's house's back (west) door.
5 of 6: Instead of bothering to follow either Ma'zaddha or Nelrene, you could wait around near that spot (but not too close) until they both show up, then sneak carefully toward them until you can hear them.
6 of 6: The best spot to wait for them and to overhear their conversation is on the higher ground near their meeting point, next to the table and chair. (It's directly south of Ma'zaddha's house's back door on the area map.) Stay there in Sneak mode until you get the journal update that follows their meeting.